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Welcome to page two. Here are additional company and country updates involving Huawei, sorted alphabetically.


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Facebook: Facebook is no longer allowing pre-installation of its apps on Huawei phones. Source: Reuters, June 7, 2019.


FedEx: Huawei is reviewing its relationship with FedEx after it claimed the U.S. package delivery company, without detailed explanation, diverted two parcels destined for Huawei addresses in Asia to the United States and attempted to reroute two others. Source: Reuters, May 27, 2019.


France: Multiple updates…

  • The country will not ban the company. Instead, France, which has safeguards in place for critical parts of its telecoms networks, is considering adding items to its “high-alert” list that tacitly targets Huawei. Source: The Straights Times, December 2018.
  • The French Senate rejected proposed legislation aimed at toughening checks on telecoms equipment, following a U.S. warning about Huawei. Source: Reuters, February 6, 2019.
  • France Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said a decision by France regarding the 5G telecoms network would be based on security and performance of networks, and added that Paris would not rule out a specific operator as not being welcome. The statement essentially confirms that Huawei can compete for 5G network business in France, though the company’s technology is expected to face intense scrutiny. Source: Reuters, May 21, 2019.
  • Huawei won’t be allowed to access French users’ location data even if the Chinese company’s equipment is used in the rollout of France’s 5G network, according to the head of the French cybersecurity agency. Source: Bloomberg, June 6, 2019.
  • French conglomerate Bouygues will look at all options, including legal action, to ensure it has the right to work with Huawei in the rollout of 5G mobile networks in France, Bouygues CEO Martin Bouygues told reporters. Source: Reuters, February 20, 2020.
  • The head of the French cybersecurity agency ANSSI said there would not be a total ban on using equipment from Huawei in the rollout of the French 5G telecoms network, but that it was pushing French telcos to avoid switching to the Chinese company. Source: Reuters, July 5, 2020.
  • French authorities have told telecoms operators planning to buy Huawei 5G equipment that they won’t be able to renew licenses for the gear once they expire, effectively phasing the Chinese firm out of mobile networks by 2028. Source: Reuters, July 22, 2020.
  • President Emmanuel Macron said France was not excluding any company including China’s Huawei from its next-generation 5G mobile market — but that his strategy was one based on European sovereignty. Source: Reuters, August 28, 2020.
  • French telecoms operator Free, a subsidiary of Iliad, has not been authorized by the government to roll out mobile gear manufactured by Huawei, contrary to local rivals Bouygues Telecom and SFR. Source: Reuters, September 3, 2020.


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Germany: Multiple updates…

  • The German government as of January 2019 was considering banning Huawei from providing 5G equipment in the country saying security concerns are of “high relevance.” The decision to ban Huawei 5G equipment would mark a shift from Germany, which has not been as vocal as other Western countries about security concerns. Source: CNBC, January 18, 2019.
  • German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Germany needs guarantees that China’s Huawei Technologies will not hand over data to the Chinese state before the telecoms equipment supplier can participate in building its 5G network. Source: Reuters, February 5, 2019.
  • The German government will consult further with telecoms operators and vendors before deciding whether to let Chinese firms such as Huawei Technologies participate in building future 5G mobile networks. Source: Reuters, February 12, 2019.
  • The Trump administration has told the German government it would limit intelligence sharing with Berlin if Huawei is allowed to build Germany’s next-generation mobile-internet infrastructure. Source: Wall Street Journal, March 11, 2019.
  • Germany will define its own security standards for a new 5G mobile network, Chancellor Angela Merkel said on March 11, after Washington said it would scale back data-sharing with Berlin if China’s Huawei was allowed to participate. Source: Reuters, March 12, 2019.
  • Germany has no plans to stop Huawei from participating in 5G networks in the country if Huawei complies with security requirements. Source: CNBC, April 15, 2019.
  • Germany will allow Huawei to supply equipment for 5G networks. Source: ZDNet, October 16, 2019.
  • German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas cast doubt on whether Huawei Technologies could participate in the development and construction of the country’s 5G network. Source: Reuters, November 4, 2019.
  • German Chancellor Angela Merkel is coming under pressure from her own party to impose an outright ban on Huawei from the country’s 5G network. Source: Bloomberg, November 15, 2019.
  • Bidders for German 5G rollout contracts must guarantee the network will be free of foreign state influence, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats agreed on Saturday, stopping short of singling out China’s Huawei. Source: Reuters, November 23, 2019.
  • Huawei secured a commitment to build part of Germany’s 5G infrastructure, strengthening its position in Europe’s largest economy despite calls from lawmakers to bar the Chinese company. Source: The Wall Street Journal, December 11, 2019.
  • China’s ambassador to Germany threatened Berlin with retaliation if it excludes Huawei as a supplier of 5G wireless equipment, citing the millions of vehicles German carmakers sell in China. Source: Bloomberg, December 14, 2019.
  • Chancellor Angela Merkel will meet senior conservative lawmakers to resolve a dispute in her own party over whether to bar Huawei from the country’s 5G network rollout. Source: Reuters, January 15, 2020.
  • Lawmakers from Chancellor Angela Merkel’s conservative party are set to back a strategy paper that stops short of banning China’s Huawei from taking part in the rollout of Germany’s 5G network. Source: Reuters, February 11, 2020.
  • Huawei’s top manager in Germany has appealed to the government not to shut it out of building 5G mobile networks, after Britain decided to purge the Chinese firm’s equipment from its network on security grounds. Source: Reuters, July 31, 2020.
  • Deutsche Telekom said no telecoms equipment vendor should be barred from Germany on political grounds, reiterating its opposition to calls from some lawmakers to bar China’s Huawei Technologies on national security grounds. Source: Reuters, August 13, 2020.


Google: Multiple updates…

  • Google Android Smartphones: Huawei is pinning its hopes on a self-designed operating system (called Hongmeng) to replace Google’s Android following a U.S. blacklisting. Source: The Wall Street Journal, May 23, 2019.
  • Google & National Security: Alphabet’s Google has warned if the U.S. administration moves ahead with sweeping ban on Huawei Technologies, it risks compromising national security. Source: The Financial Times, June 7, 2019.

Greenland: The country has picked Sweden’s Ericsson over China’s Huawei to supply equipment for its 5G telecoms network, state telecoms operator Tele Greenland said on Thursday. Source: Reuters, January 19, 2019.


GSMA: Mobile communications industry body GSMA has proposed its members discuss the possibility that Chinese network vendor Huawei is excluded from key markets, amid concerns such a development could set operators back by years. Source: Reuters, February 2, 2019.



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Huawei: The company has repeatedly and firmly denied claims that its gear represents a spying risk for customers. Among the additional updates:

  • Huawei kicked off a trade secrets lawsuit in the United States on June 3, 2019 against a former employee who has sought to turn the case into a referendum on Huawei’s corporate behavior. Source: Reuters, June 3, 2019.
  • Huawei is selling its majority slice of its global submarine cable division, exiting the business of laying undersea piping for the Internet just weeks after the Trump administration blocked it from buying American technology. Source: Bloomberg, June 3, 2019.
  • Huawei has applied to trademark its “Hongmeng” operating system (OS) in at least nine countries and Europe, data from a U.N. body shows, in a sign it may be deploying a back-up plan in key markets as U.S. sanctions threaten its business model, Reuters reports. Source: Reuters, June 13, 2019.
  • Huawei has sued the U.S. over the seizure of telecommunications equipment by American officials who were investigating whether the gear required an export license to leave the country. Source: Bloomberg, June 21, 2019.
  • Huawei disputed findings from a U.S. cybersecurity firm that its gear is far more likely to contain flaws than equipment from rival companies, characterizing the analysis as incomplete and inaccurate. Source: The Wall Street Journal reports. July 5, 2019.
  • Huawei’s revenue grew roughly 30 percent in the first half of 2019 after select teams secured critical supplies to keep production going despite U.S. technology export restrictions. Source: Bloomberg and Reuters, July 23, 2019.
  • Huawei secretly helped North Korea build and maintain its commercial wireless network. Such a move would raise questions of whether Huawei, which has used U.S. technology in its components, violated American export controls to furnish North Korea with equipment. Source: Reuters, July 22, 2019.
  • Huawei cemented its dominance of the domestic smartphone market in the second quarter, with shipments and market share rising, as Chinese customers backed the embattled firm amid its trade fight with the United States. Source: Reuters, July 29, 2019.
  • Huawei will spend more on production equipment this year to ensure supply continuity, cut redundant roles and demote inefficient managers as its grapples with a “live-or-die moment” in the wake of U.S. export curbs, founder Ren Zhengfei said. Source: Reuters, August 20, 2019
  • Huawei said the impact of U.S. trade restrictions on its business will be less than what it initially feared, though the curbs could push its smartphone unit’s revenue lower by about $10 billion in 2019. Source: Reuters, August 23, 2019.
  • Huawei lashed out at the U.S. government on September 3, accusing Washington of orchestrating a campaign to intimidate its employees and launching cyber-attacks to infiltrate its internal network. Source: Bloomberg, September 3, 2019.
  • Huawei plans to spend more than $300 million a year in research funding for universities, a senior company executive said on Tuesday, even as the Chinese firm fights a U.S. trade ban from that has hurt its business and academia tie-ups. Source: Reuters, September 3, 2019.
  • Huawei has offered to make its source code available to the Japanese government, Kyodo news agency said. Source: Reuters, September 3, 2019.
  • Huawei plans to shift its research center to Canada from the United States, founder Ren Zhengfei said in an interview with Canada’s Globe and Mail. Ren’s remarks came as Reuters reported that the United States is weighing expanding its power to stop more foreign shipments of products with U.S. technology to Huawei. Source: Reuters, December 2, 2019.
  • Huawei’s cyber security chief said that he was not aware of any mobile operator ever having given the Chinese company access to the equipment used to intercept calls when required to do so by security services . Source: Reuters, February 14, 2020.
  • Under fire from the Trump administration, Huawei has approached high-profile figures in Washington to try to turn around negative perceptions of the company. Source: The Wall Street Journal, February 28, 2020.
  • Huawei will build a factory in France regardless of the government’s decision on whether to use its equipment in a new 5G network, an executive at the Chinese telecoms giant said. Source: Reuters, March 4, 2020.
  • Huawei is confident some European telecoms firms will choose it to provide 5G technology for their core networks, the firm’s chief representative to the EU, Abraham Liu, says. Source: Reuters, March 6, 2020.
  • Huawei is confident some European telecoms firms will choose it to provide 5G technology for their core networks, the firm’s chief representative to the EU, Abraham Liu, said. Source: Reuters, March 6, 2020.
  • Huawei is focusing on its budding cloud business, which still has access to U.S. chips despite sanctions against the company, to secure its survival. Source: Reuters, August 29, 2020.
  • Huawei said its supply chain was under attack from the United States and called on Washington to reconsider its trade restrictions which were hurting suppliers globally. Source: Reuters, September 23, 2020.

Hungary: The country’s foreign minister opened the way for Huawei to be involved in the rollout of its high-speed 5G network. Source: Reuters, November 5, 2019.



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India: Multiple updates…

  • Australian government officials advised India to ban Huawei from supplying parts for a rollout of a high-speed telecommunications network, Australian newspapers reported. Source: Reuters, September 9, 2019.
  • The Indian government has allowed Chinese telecom company Huawei Technologies Co to participate in trials for 5G networks, a company spokesman said. Source: Reuters, December 30, 2019.
  • India may advise local telecom operators to shun equipment made by Huawei ZTE Corp., people with knowledge of the matter said, as relations between the neighbors deteriorated amid a border dispute. Source: Bloomberg, July 1, 2020.
  • Huawei and ZTE are set to be kept out of India’s plans to roll out its 5G networks as relations between China and India countries hit a four decade low following deadly border clashes. Source: Bloomberg, August 13, 2020.

InterDigital Wireless: The company on May 20, 2019, said it can license its 5G network technology to Huawei despite the threat of a U.S. ban on selling chips and software to the Chinese telecommunications firm, and patent attorneys said Qualcomm likely also can do so. Source: Reuters, May 20, 2019.


Italy: Multiple updates…

  • The country has denied a report it will ban Huawei and ZTE from playing a role in building its fifth-generation mobile phone network. Source: Reuters, February 7, 2019.
  •  An Italian parliamentary security committee said the Rome government should consider preventing Chinese telecommunications firms Huawei and ZTE from supplying 5G technology. Source: Reuters, December 19, 2019.
  • The government will have to take into account the views of a parliamentary security committee, which has said Rome should consider preventing Chinese telecoms firms from developing Italy’s 5G networks. Source: Reuters, December 20, 2019.
  • Huawei should be allowed a role in Italy’s future 5G network, the Italian industry minister said on December 22 after an influential parliamentary committee called on Rome to block the company. Source: Reuters, December 23, 2019.
  • Italy is considering excluding Huawei from building its planned 5G network over security concerns. Source: Reuters, July 9, 2020.
  • Telecom Italia has excluded Huawei from a tender for 5G equipment for the core network it is preparing to build in Italy and Brazil. Source: Reuters, July 9, 2020.
  • Huawei is working with Telecom Italia despite being shut out of a recent tender to supply new generation 5G technology, the chairman of the Chinese group’s Italian unit said in a newspaper interview. Source: Reuters, July 15, 2020.

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Japan: Japan’s government effectively banned China’s Huawei and ZTE from official contracts. Source: Japan Times, December 10, 2018.



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Kenya: Kenya’s biggest telecoms operator Safaricom will consider awarding a contract to Huawei as it rolls out a 5G network this year, its acting chief executive said. Source: Reuters, February 20, 2020.


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Malaysia: Malayia’s own security standards will dictate which companies take part in its planned 5G rollout in 2020, its communications minister told Reuters, as the United States pushes countries to exclude China’s Huawei. Source: Reuters, February 17, 2020.


Microsoft: Multiple updates include:

  • The software giant has remove Huawei from one of its websites offering cloud gear, but the software giant still won’t comment on whether it is rescinding Huawei’s license to use Windows. Source: Bloomberg, May 23, 2019.
  • The Microsoft Store has stopped selling Huawei laptops. Source: Windows Report, May 27, 2019.

Middle East Countries: The United States has raised its concerns with Gulf allies over a possible security risk in using Huawei’s technology for their 5G mobile infrastructure, Reuters reports. Huawei has repeatedly denied the U.S. allegations, which were raised during a visit by FCC Chair Ajit Pai to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain, all of which are using its equipment, the report says. Source: Reuters, September 12, 2019.


Multiple Technology Companies: Some of the world’s biggest tech companies have told their employees to stop talking about technology and technical standards with counterparts at Huawei in response to the recent U.S. blacklisting of the Chinese tech firm. Intel, Qualcomm, InterDigital Wireless and LG Uplus have restricted employees from informal conversations with Huawei. Source: Reuters, June 10, 2019.



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The Netherlands: The Dutch government established a special task force to weigh potential security risks as it prepares to build a 5G telecommunications network. The announcement came after Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said his government was still exploring options for 5G and had not yet formed an opinion on the possible role of Chinese companies. A recommendation was expected by the end of May 2019. Source: Reuters, April 15, 2019.


New Zealand: The country’s top intelligence agency has banned controversial Chinese vendor Huawei from supplying equipment for the country’s first 5G mobile network in November 2018. Source: The Sydney Morning Herald, November 28. 2018.


Nokia: Multiple updates…

  • Nokia has disowned comments made a day earlier to the BBC by their CTO Marcus Weldon—comments that related to the alleged security issues with equipment from rival Huawei. Nokia has been careful in its public statements about Huawei’s difficulties. SourceForbes, June 28, 2019.
  •  Nokia has partnered with Intel to accelerate its so-far sluggish shift to 5G, a day after announcing a similar deal with Marvell Technology. Source: Reuters, March 5, 2020.

North Korea: Huawei secretly helped North Korea build and maintain its commercial wireless network. Such a move would raise questions of whether Huawei, which has used U.S. technology in its components, violated American export controls to furnish North Korea with equipment. Source: Reuters, July 22, 2019.


Norway: Multiple updates…

  • Norway does not plan to block China’s Huawei Technologies from building the country’s 5G telecoms network, cabinet minister Nikolai Astrup told Reuters, a decision that puts it at odds with NATO ally the United States. Source: Reuters, September 26,2019.
  • Telenor has picked Sweden’s Ericsson as the key technology provider for its fifth-generation (5G) telecoms network in Norway, gradually removing China’s Huawei after a decade of collaboration over 4G. Source: Reuters, December 11, 2019


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Orange: Orange, France’s number one telecoms operator, expects to reduce its reliance on Huawei mobile equipment in Europe in the medium term, CEO Stéphane Richard said. Source: Reuters, July 30, 2020.


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Poland: Multiple updates…

  • The country is set to exclude Huawei from its future 5G network in favor of European players following the arrest of an employee from the Chinese telecoms company on suspicion of spying, officials and industry sources say. Source: Reuters, January 24, 2019.
  • Huawei is ready to work with the Polish government on additional steps to build trust, Andy Purdy, chief security officer at Huawei Technologies USA, said. Source: Reuters, February 13, 2019.
  • Poland is unlikely to exclude all Huawei equipment from its next generation mobile networks, a government minister told Reuters, in part to avoid increased costs for mobile operators. Source: Reuters, April 16, 2019.
  • The United States and Poland believe suppliers of 5G network equipment should be rigorously evaluated for foreign government control, a joint declaration signed on September 3, 2019, said, as Washington pressures allies to exclude China from 5G networks. Source: Reuters, September 2, 2019.
  • Poland might impose stricter security demands for core elements of its future 5G network than for other areas of the system, the digital minister said, a move that could give telecom operators more choice over suppliers than states with more sweeping rules. Poland, like other nations, has been working on regulations to guarantee the security of 5G network in the wake of an international row over whether equipment made by major Chinese supplier Huawei poses a security threat. Source: Reuters, December 18, 2019.
  • Poland’s planned criteria for assessing the risk of telecoms equipment providers are political and may be aimed at excluding Huawei from developing the country’s 5G network, the Chinese company said. Source: Reuters, September 9, 2020.

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Qualcomm: U.S. mobile-phone chip maker Qualcomm resolved a protracted licensing dispute with Huawei and signed a long-term deal with the smartphone maker despite heightened tensions between the U.S. and China. Source: The Wall Street Journal, July 29, 2020.



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Softbank: The company’s Japanese telecom unit selected Nokia and Ericsson as vendors for it next-generation 5G wireless network, excluding long-time supplier Huawei from the project. Source: Bloomberg, May 29, 2019.


Sophos: The UK-based cybersecurity company allegedly halted all direct and partner sales to Huawei. Source: Computer Business Review, June 5, 2019.


South Korea: More than a hundred South Korean politicians and business leaders toured Huawei’s headquarters and its lavish new campus outside Shenzhen. The campaign against Huawei, and the broader U.S.-China trade war, have landed export-driven South Korea in a familiar bind, caught between its crucial security ally and biggest trading partner. Source: Reuters, May 28, 2019.


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Telecom Italia: The company excluded Huawei from a tender for 5G equipment for the core network it is preparing to build in Italy and Brazil. Source: Reuters, July 9, 2020.


Telus: The Vancouver, Canada-based telecom provider says a Huawei equipment ban could delay 5G wireless network rollouts and raise deployment costs. Source: Bloomberg, February 14, 2019.


Thailand: Thailand launched a Huawei 5G test bed on February 8, 2019, even as the United States urges its allies to bar the Chinese telecoms giant from building next-generation mobile networks. Source: Reuters, February 8, 2019.


Turkey: Turkish telecoms company Turkcell has signed an agreement with Huawei to use Huawei Mobile Services app ecosystem. Source: Reuters, February 12, 2020.

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Comments

    Sndi:

    Can anyone explain the security issues with the Huawei equipment?
    I mean the details of where the leaks and back door are present. I have work with huawri OSN (core equipement). There was nothing very suspicious about the operation.

    Joe Panettieri:

    To the best of my knowledge, there are no smoking guns against Huawei in terms of back doors for China’s government.
    -jp

    Mona L Featherston:

    Does this include all Huawei smart phones? I have a Huawei Model # H1611 that I purchased in 2017 from Wal-Mart through the Straight Talk ATT prepaid. Is it safe to use?

    Arek:

    what about Japan ?

    Joe Panettieri:

    Mona: Check in directly with your service provider for information. Our Huawei coverage above mainly involves 5G network deployments.

    Arek: You raise a great question about Japan. Sorry we didn’t have that info earlier. We’ve updated the article to include Japan’s statement about Huawei.
    -jp

    Sandip:

    I want to add something to this, the U.S.A. might be banning Huawei products as it doesn’t want to lose its privilege of becoming a leader in telecommunications.

    mae:

    Hi, i’m a student about to travel to the United States for an exchange program and my parents recently bought me a Huawei phone. Am I gonna be stopped in immigration for this?

    Alain Bastien:

    If you think and fear it might be an issue exchange it for a Motorolla or iPhone.

    I don’t really think that they don’t have features which Huawei have which is highly indispensable

    Joe Panettieri:

    Mae: You won’t have any issues bringing the device into the country.

    TH:

    Huawei needs to be banned. Assisting China -will fully or forced- with spying, stealing other companies’ intellectual property. Now Huawei wants to temporary suspend spying and intellectual property stealing now that many recognize the horrible details of this company? They shouldn’t be rewarded for this; many other companies play by the rules. And also, really silly that this article is very anti-USA and very pro-Huawei.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Hi TH: I’d be curious to know why you believe the article is anti-USA and pro-Huawei?
    -jp

    David Friedmann:

    Next phone to have. I think it’s safer without google apps 🙂

    Man:

    can huwaei sell it 5G equipment to any country after the USA ban specially the equipment has more than 25% of the USA products in it?

    Olivier:

    Thank you for the great summary

    Mari Roma:

    What about Filipino (Philippines) Huawei Users?

    Zel:

    I think that US has banned Huawei because the company was trying to be like an Apple, that’s restricting info sharing with android phones. If Apple can do so, why can’t Huawei? Just a thought.
    And Huawei has better features than Apple, at a lower cost, which made them rise at the top of telco race. Based on my observation, Apple users think they’re some what elite coz it’s made exclusively for them – higher cost, and sharing is limited among iOS users.
    On some thought, this banning issue is to pave the way for other telcos, like Nokia and Ericsson that have been silent for quite sometime.

    Flo:

    All in All, I’m kinda happy that all US applications or whatsoever get banned from using Huawei.
    Now I feel safer using Huawei device and I prefer it that way.
    No other country exploit user private data as the US do.
    I live in Europe and I rather have my intel ending in China than in the US where they will be hacked by Russia …
    China is a safe bet if we have to believe everything US government says.

    Gio Agnes:

    Hi there! I ask some question, I hope it will be answered.

    Actually I decided to buy new Huawei P30 Lite this month of June here in Philippines.

    Is this still safe? Because I am thinking it might if it is not working cause of issues spreading about banning in some countries and I am worrying if after I bought my new phone here in Philippines it is not working in after a few months.

    I am Filipino.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Dear Gio, Mari, and other readers who inquired about Huawei smartphones in the Philippines: ChannelE2E does not have first-hand information to share. This article from Rappler may provide some guidance to you. But please note that we are not affiliated with that publication, and we have not directly confirmed the details/opinions contained in that article.
    -jp

    JORGE BARREIRO:

    Joe Panettieri: I hope you don’t believe in Santa Claus too! China’s Government involved in Huawei and espionage is written in the cover of any book!

    Cloudy:

    @ Flo:

    I suppose you could say the US spies on its own people (and they do), but that doesn’t absolve the fact that China is doing the same thing in a much more pervasive way. The US should stop doing this, and likewise for China. To be fair, I wouldn’t believe what either of those governments (US or China) says, because we all know it’s rigged and nothing more than a bunch of lies intended to sway our opinions to benefit them.

    However, as you know, the Chinese government likes to constantly monitor the social media sites, and censorship is widely used (courtesy of the Great Firewall of China). For you to be living outside China, at least you could voice your opinions without either having it blocked off due to political reasons and/or maybe even hunted down by Communist-brainwashed police (China has a really spotty record when it comes to human rights and democracy). It gets worse when the Chinese government jumps over their own Firewall to spread pro-China and pro-Communist propaganda on Facebook, Twitter, Google, YouTube, and other websites that are inaccessible by their own people; so they’re basically breaking their own rules to extend their reach to try to influence people outside of China.

    Let’s also not forget how China is treating the people in Tibet, Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc, to the point where they want to leave China and their manipulative ways, but then China is making things even worse for them. In 2007, Beijing said it would not interfere with the 2017 elections in Hong Kong, but they broke their promise and that led to the Umbrella Revolution and other such protests. Of course, the Chinese government turns it around and censors the truth from their own people, then goes as far as to spreading fake news on the state-influenced TV (i.e., saying the 1 million protesters in front of the Legislative Council building are there to celebrate the national holiday… and people actually believe any of that). It’s a sad state of affairs when people are beaten, tortured, or even killed for expressing critical views of the government, kind of like 1984 becoming reality.

    In any case, Huawei should be banned because it’s not conducive or helpful to the civilized, democratic world. Chinese companies are forced by the Chinese government to create backdoors or other means to facilitate the government in spying into the software or social media for the purpose of censorship and undermining peoples’ human rights. We cannot allow this to happen in our 1st world countries because we may as well be enabling the Communist regime in the furtherance of these violations on our own people.

    Harris:

    Spain update: The country rolls out 5G network using Huawei gear.

    Sources:
    https://www.rt.com/business/461954-spain-5g-network-huawei/amp/

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-06/16/c_138146413.htm

    BTW, all (supposed to be US-allies) Arabian gulf countries will use (and some of them already using) Huawei for their 5G networks, and the first is Kuwait which started (from yesterday, 15th of June) selling Huawei’s 5G CPE Pro router from all 3 operators (Ooredoo, Zain, VIVA). Qatar also offering the same Huawei device with all package plans starting from this week.

    Not to mention Huawei won a contract with biggest Russian operator earlier. And Brasil expressed its willingness to cooperate with Huawei for 5G deployment, ignoring all US warnings.

    Huawei clearly won the 5G race.
    Banning the company in the US because of “spying” allegations will not cancel the contracts or the already deployed networks and won’t do any good for Americans themselves because less competition will harm the consumer eventually.

    Hongster:

    Evidence for Huawei engaging in espionage: 0

    Evidence for American Gov spying using American companies: There is a whole wikipedia page about it thanks to NSA whistle blower Edward Snowden. These global surveillance partners include but not limited to Microsoft, Facebook, Apple, Google, British Telecom, Verizon, Vodafone. Details here.

    Alain Bastien:

    The NSA global surveillance is meant to avoid attacks such as the 9/11 tragedy.

    Huawei stole the mobile technology from Motorola the inventor.

    Huawei stoke the CISCO code and Hardware manufacturing.

    https://www.prosperousamerica.org/top_five_cases_of_huawei_ip_theft_and_patent_infringement

    Willy H:

    It’s really baffling and abhorrent how the common people (e.g. here in the comments) would bow to and blindly accept what the propagandists are saying. You actually think Huawei phones have been inserted with backdoor? Ridiculous! That’s an excuse by the US for its own nationalistic ambitions. It’s clear they do not want a Chinese company to lead in 5G so they’re doing everything they can to prevent it from happening. Huawei is easily the leader of 5G development in the world, no other company is even near.

    Xiong:

    Lets not get confused between Huawei and Chinese government nor Apple or AT&T or Google and US government. Like it or not ALL GOVERNMENTS spy on their own and others outside their countries. Do not be naive to think the US or EU are any more innocent then China. Lets accept this and move on. Leave politics away from business!

    Bobby:

    “To the best of my knowledge, there are no smoking guns against Huawei in terms of back doors for China’s government.”

    Huawei SW has been developped in a way that backdoors can be added afterwards by Huawei or other Chinese technicals. China wants to conquer the world and Huawei is under Chinese government so who will really trust Huawei and their words. Remember that China is not a western country or a democratic country. Do you really trust the admistration of China? Dont be naives.

    Alex:

    “Like it or not ALL GOVERNMENTS spy on their own and others outside their countries. Do not be naive to think the US or EU are any more innocent then China. Lets accept this and move on. Leave politics away from business!”

    Especially western countries dont want that China will spy them. China will not respect IPR at all. Chinese covernment pays Huaweis bills so Huawei is not a normal company. And Huawei is not a private company. China does not understand what private means.

    Wakeup:

    There is a Huawei 5G network in China now, and look at how the Chinese Social Credit System works. If you say something bad about the government online, you are recorded, and your social credit system will be decreased. As a consequence of that, the person cannot buy a train or flight ticket. Some people are jailed for it. Huawei is providing information to the Chinese government in China right now, how to stop Huawei from providing information to the Chinese government in the future? It cannot be stopped. In China, if a company does not do what the government asks it to do, the company is dead. The director is dead. Do not listen to what Zhengfei Ren said, look at what he does, and how Huawei grew over the years. It is profoundly linked to the Chinese Government. Ban on Huawei is necessary to preserve modern democracy and rule of law. When there is a war between the West and China, will you think that Huawei would protect the information of the Western people they collected, and not send them to the Chinese government? Hell NO.

    Devon Seamoor:

    Just for your information, China uses a social credit system, controlling its citizens’ behavior and opinions. Every Chinese customer, buying a smartphone, needs to offer a picture of its face. That picture is used for face recognition so that all communication leaving the smartphone of that person is identified as coming from that person. The excuse that someone else used the phone and made a negative remark, is done and over with. Control of smartphones exists for some time.

    When that person shares negative comments about the Chinese government and other Chinese authorities, the retribution may be a blocking of one’s internet connection or emptying that person’s bank account. The Chinese government has access to all bank accounts of its citizens and in that way, it has become “Big Brother watching you”

    Besides, there’s been protests in the streets of cities where residents discovered streetlights where cameras and microphones record the conversation of phone calls of passers-by. That’s the smart LED lamp technology. Part of the 5G installation is a network of LED lamp technology, connecting the cell towers in your neighborhood. Beware of spying eyes!

    compro:

    If you are able to detect it as a end user. Then Huawei has failed in its product design!
    True or not we never know. One thing for sure is Huawei is super attractive in term of price.
    If you feel comfortable with Huawei, why not as it save lots of money.

    Devon Seamoor:

    Compro, at the cost of your privacy and health? You must live in a narrow bandwidth reality, I suppose.
    This discussion isn’t about the cost of things or services, it’s about the reasons why many people are critical.
    And that’s got nothing to do with the price. You’re very naive.

    Devon Seamoor:

    This is my response to what’s shared here earlier: “To the best of my knowledge, there are no smoking guns against Huawei in terms of back doors for China’s government.
    -jp”

    Please, keep in mind that Trojan horses aren’t supposed to be detected before they ‘re jumping into action.
    It’s naive, to ask questions about where the proof can be found of spying activity, in the virtual world. Related to Huawei’s program and service. Of course, there’s no chance that this is found, it would destroy all that is intended by Huawei.

    The answer to such a question, about evidence that spying is involved within Huawei’s system, can be found by looking into the measures China is taking, monitoring its population by smart technology. To me, it’s evident what the answer is.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Devon: Thanks for the healthy debate. Portions of the US government certainly share your concerns. We’ll continue to track worldwide perspectives on Huawei deployments and the associated security debate.
    -jp

    Joe Kaufman:

    This is a bunch of rubbish, even the EU and many other countries say that the US presented no evidence. Believe what you will, but there are only the US and a couple other five eyes countries that has limited or banned Huawei altogether. Canada is a five eyes member and is currently sitting on a post contemplating whether to grow a spine to defy American demands.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Hi Joe: Thanks for the note. If you study our coverage in its entirety, I hope you’ll find that we’ve covered dozens of countries and their specific decisions on Huawei. We realize the U.S. is only one voice in far larger IT world.
    -jp

    Miles:

    Hi Joe,
    What are your overall thoughts on huawei? Still no smoking gun?

    Debating whether to keep my Huawei devices, although this may be different to 5g technology I know.

    I’m not bothered if they see my nudes, just want to make the right decision for the world 😂

    Thanks
    Miles

    Joe Panettieri:

    Miles: On the device front, I think the U.S. trade ban limits Huawei’s ability to leverage Google services/Google apps. Details here. I’m not choosing sides, but I suspect those limitations (and others) will limit Huawei’s mobile device success in North America. Still, I’m not an expert on the topic. We’ve focused most of the blog above on government issues rather than device considerations.
    -jp

    Miles:

    Thanks Joe, galaxy s20 it is 👍🏻

    Katherine:

    Why do you think the Huawei products are priced so far below their western competitors? Subsidized. That is how they get a large uptake of their equipment into public hands to further their data collection efforts. People are too foolish to think beyond price. People download apps without reading what they are agreeing to all the time. How much facial recognition data has been collected by Tiktok just in the past 3 months? Now the Chinese are moving into space and satellite technology in a big way. Want to live under communist or totalitarian rule? Educate yourselves. Be aware, and be cautious. Spend your money carefully. The cheapest option is rarely the best option. There are consequences to everything you do.

    Peter:

    Products from China are cheaper in general. Doesn’t mean they are all subsidized. Why do successful Chinese companies have to be demonized? More money means for success for China. What data are all those US apps collecting and why do they have to collect them? Tiktok is bad because it may be collecting the same data or because it is Chinese? I call it jealousy that a non-Western company like Huawei can actually be better than a Western company. Snowden already showed how much spying the US is doing. Remember the US spied on the German Chancellor so it is very hypocritical for the US to go around scaring other countries about being spied upon by China. What reason is there for the US to prevent non-US companies from selling products that contain US components to Huawei ? That has nothing to do with national security.
    And for anyone to tie democracy and not using anything Chinese, that is just xenophobia propaganda and brainwashing. Western media is very anti-China and you have to try hard to find the truth. Has anyone even bothered to read the US national security laws and compared them to the national security law of China which includes Hong Kong? Spreading so many negative lies has given rise to so much hate crimes on all the Asian communities since Westerners cant tell Chinese from other east Asians.

    Jake Dee:

    I was going to post a comment but everything has been said. The bottom line seems to be that if the Chinese Government continues to conduct itself in the manner that it is with regard to its own citizens and those of Tibet, Hong Kong , Taiwan, the Uighurs not to mention the rest of the World, eventually no one will want its products.

    I have a sense this is only the beginning and aggressive rhetoric is not going to help their cause. They have a lot of ground to make up if they want to rejoin the rest of civilisation.

    Peter:

    Jake: Sounds like just your opinion since there is no facts. Lets see examples of US aggression. Iraq WMD lies to start a war. Providing Saudis with weapon to kill Yemen children. Aiding the Hong Kong rioters. Threatening to block Venezuela receiving Iran oil tankers and aide. Attempted murder of Venezuela president. The murder of Iranian general without a declaration of war. The list goes on and on. The US also loves sanctions. Nord stream 2 sanctions, sanctions on Canada, Europe, ICC judges, and anyone who disagrees with the US. Weaponizing the dollar to punish countries. Pretty soon you will have to find countries not sanctioned by the US. Use Canada to kidnap Chinese CFO but nothing to Enron, Sanders executives. Destroying the competition Alstom, Toshiba and now trying to do the same to leading Chinese companies. US police brutality everywhere. When the truth comes out, which you and the media try so hard to hide, it will be the US that will have to find a way to rejoin civilization. Bottom line is remember Pompeo’s saying: “We lie, we cheat, we steal.” So how can you trust the US. Don’t forget Snowden and Assange.

    Big Facts:

    @Devon Seamoor thanks for your rational points and agree with you. Issue is more with Chinese Govt than organizations from China. They have to rely on authoritarian Communist regime. It is important to understand that till this date China has restricted its citizen from accessing global internet and platforms and created a controlled, monitored environment. Why?

    If a Govt suspects and monitors so much on its own citizen then what it can do with other countries data keeping in mind that it has territorial and commercial aggression plan. It has territorial dispute with 24 countries and has defied rulings of UN over island belonging to Philippines. This will not be tolerated and it is matter of time before it will slowly garner more issues for not just Huawei rather more companies from China.

    Those asking proof of snooping please understand at device level you can modify and much easily manipulate security footprints. Those mentioning Wikipedia, please understand Wiki is maintained by group of people and it has become a trend of locked article editable by a cult of operators with vested agenda. It is no more neutral.

    Naireip:

    This is great info. Thanks!

    Real Facts:

    @Devon Global internet has so much hate on it and is totally anti-china. Would you want your children looking at BLM or anti-US lies or anything they want on the internet? Who are you to tell your neighbor if they want to restrict their family from certain websites? Long story short because it looks like my reply using similarities between BLM narrative and what US is doing to China was deleted. Remember Snowden and Assange on US spying so stop pointing finger at China. I have to remind you of Pompeo saying “we lie, we cheat, we steal”. And you trust what he says? If you don’t believe wikipedia, where do you get your info? Pompeo? Tell me which us media outlet has a “vested agenda” less than wiki. You can’t.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Real Facts, all readers: Yes, some comments in this thread have been deleted. The topic/focus of the article is where Huawei is banned and permitted. That said, we strive to keep the comment thread focused on that topic, and delete comments that go off topic. We also delete comments that we perceive to be shouting matches vs. other readers — rather than constructive dialog. But I want to emphasize: Constructive criticism delivered in a professional tone, on message with the story topic, remains welcome.

    Joe Panettieri
    Joe@AfterNines.com
    EVP, After Nines Inc., ChannelE2E and MSSP Alert

    Real Facts:

    @Joe Thanks for showing that censorship exists in the west too and there are posts that don’t even mention Huawei and are just China bashing. But here’s my take on Huawei. There is no evidence that it has any more security issues than any other company but is banned just on the false accusations that something “might” happen because they are Chinese. Can I as a business owner in the US ban a race because of my fear that they are more prone to violence? In this case you can search for violent crime statistics based on race, but no such information is shown for Huawei security issues. There is more evidence of US threats. That is the hypocrisy of those who say Huawei should be banned because it has to follow China rules. Same can be said about Microsoft, google, Boeing, and those who did not Enron, Goldman Sachs, lehman brothers. In short, the US is trying to make an enemy by increasing Sinophobia and engaging in economic war. Sounds familiar to what is shown is history books. The US wants “transparency” and so should be honest and admit they just want to destroy the competition and all options are on the table.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Real Facts: Thank you for raising your points and concerns in a professional manner. I do appreciate it. You also raise a point about some of the comments further above allegedly bashing China. I will give the thread(s) a closer look, and we will work hard to keep the comment areas informative rather than inflammatory. We’re not perfect. But we”ll always strive to make improvements.
    -jp

    Dan:

    I believe the real issue is war. The risk of war has increased, this is fact. If an enemy controls your communication network they can either spy on your operations or sabotage your networks. Both would be hugely advantageous in war. We must prepare for the worst as times have changed. I think it has very little to do with china spying on the everyday citizen.

    Jeff Wong:

    What I don’t understand is why Chinese are so angry? Don’t they see they have been banning Western tech products and services for decades, actually almost twenty years of bans. Just look at the list in Wikipedia of the hundreds of websites and apps banned in China, many of them quite benign. Heck even Winnie the Pooh, a children’s character is banned. Doesn’t this seem like the result of a paranoid totalitarian government and if we turn the arguments around it looks like China has only been trying to stop the rise of the West for decades!!! Now we only playing the same game and they start complaining foul which seems hypocritical. They even ban the entire outside internet!!! 7 countries, possibly 9 and many more are going to ban Huawei. What’s the problem? Chinese supporters of Huawei say China doesn’t need us, that they are powerful and strong without the West, if that’s the case then why are they so hellbent on dictating to us, why they so worried about us, just let us go, you’ll be fine without us? Seems really one way. Remember thousands of Western tech companies are banned in China. Pot calling the kettle black anyone?

    Dan:

    Excellent points. The ccp has always advocated it’s rights when it comes to national security. Their reasoning has always been they are protecting their soveriegnty from aggressive Western forces. However their recent actions do not match their rhetoric. They have broken international law in the south china sea and are threatening taiwan, an internationally reconigned country. This is not defensive but rather offensive. It is therefore entirely reasonable that some Western countries have raised their threat levels from “war is possible” to “war is likely”. It then is also entirely reasonable that infrastructure which is deemed as a national security such as telecommunications are protected. The ccp have done this. Why would we assume the West cannot do the same. It is not aggressive or racist. Simply preparing for a worst case sinario.

    Anand:

    Get Huawei Technologies and you will see more cyber hacks happening all over the world. “No Spy” agreement lol means nothing to the Chinese government. They can replay the top people in Huawei Technologies at a heart beat.

    Johari Wong:

    @ Jeff Wong
    Re: Heck even Winnie the Pooh, a children’s character is banned.

    Are you talking out of your a**e? Since when did China ban Winnie the Pooh? Have you been to China? I was transiting at Shanghai Pudong Airport early last year and I bought a Winnie the Pooh soft toy for my young nephew.

    One can only assume they dislike China and the Chinese and you seek to defame it at any opportunity.

    Anand:

    Lol only show how much you travel. In some countries things are available in the Airport Duty free but not available to the public outside the airport. So is poor Winnie.

    Takashi:

    As if US is not spying on us…..

    Joe Panettieri:

    Takashi: I respect your point. The U.S. media (including me) needs to work harder to understand and report on alleged U.S. digital spying activities.
    -jp

    Jeff:

    China only bans foreign products and services in China itself. US not only ban the sales of huawei in US, but also ready to sanction other countries who use huawei, which is ridiculous to say the least. Did China ban US products being used in OTHER countries?

    Petrichor:

    What about Vatican City State? Is their server / network Huawei because Rome’s is? You should list Vatican under “V”, not just lump it in with Italy. You should also list if Huawei runs the networks of tiny principalities like Andorra and Monaco.

    Vatican network was hacked by China recently to learn what their negotiating stance is on the up-and-coming renewal of the Vatican-China treaty (which China broke as soon as it was signed).

    Joe Panettieri:

    Hi Petrichor: You raise valid points in terms of Vatican City being independent of Italy. We’ll be updating our coverage accordingly.
    -jp

    Philemon:

    Wonderful article thank you Joe. Sorry but in this day and age tech and politics go hand in hand and the very reason for this article.
    It surprises me how naive some people are of Huawei and its connection to CCP.
    You only need to see their surveillance state to monitor, restrict and incarcerate people for express their views. Not to mention the many cyberattacks, intellectual theft etc. CCP recently launched their own satellite system in case of a war with the US. China seeks to dominate the world by all news especially tech. Have you heard of unrestricted warfare? A company backed by a state with atrocious human rights record justify the US’ actions. In saying that, the chinese are capable and destined for great breakthroughs but are pegged by their authoritarian regime. In constrast Taiwan a free and prosperous tech hub punching above its weight.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Philemon: Thanks for your readership. We’ll continue to update the content since multiple countries and tech companies continue to weigh in on the Huawei debate. And to reiterate: Huawei has always insisted that it has done nothing wrong, and that the company is not a back-door provider to the Chinese government.

    Best,
    -jp

    John Li:

    How many of you who are critical of China and CCP have been to China in the last 10 years? How many wars have China started or participated in in the last 30 years? How many countries have the US interfered with in the last 30 years? How many foreign military bases does the US has worldwide? How many countries have the US sanctioned? Please look in the mirror before accusing others.

    Joe Panettieri:

    Hi John Li: You raise important questions regarding the U.S. population’s collective knowledge (or lack of knowledge) regarding world events & geopolitical issues. We’re striving to keep this particular story and comment thread focused on Huawei, but the larger world view you mention certainly is important for all of us to keep in mind.
    -jp

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